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- From: jafo@tummy.com (Sean Reifschneider)
- Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++
- Subject: Re: Any opinions: MAKING $$ AS A PROGRMR-?
- Date: 22 Mar 96 16:20:23 GMT
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- In article <<4i0c08$1pvc@useneta1.news.prodigy.com>> (11 Mar 1996 04:59:52 GMT), Vinnie Tieto <KVED19A@prodigy.com> wrote:
- >1) If I spend say, an hour a day studying C++ programming, how long
- >before I reach the point where I'm ready to do it "professionally"
- >(assuming above-average, sub-genius smarts)?
-
- I'd guess that at an hour a day, you'd probably be ready to go "professional"
- in about a year and a half to 3 years (depending on the intensity of your
- study).
-
- >2) I'm 37 years old, and I have a life. Will I be able to compete with
- >20 year olds who exist on twinkies and Pepsi while programming 16 hours a
- >day?
-
- No. Not even close... The computer industry is very fast moving, and while
- you could be a competant programmer, you most definately will not be able
- to compete with somone who spends 60 to 80 hours a week honing their
- skills -- no matter the age or beverage consumption. Twinkis do not make
- the programmer.
-
- The most mediocre workers I've found are the ones who do it 8 to 5 as "just
- a job", and try not to think about it the rest of the time. The best ones
- I've found are the ones who love doing it. Because they love doing it,
- they end up doing it more than 40 hours a week. For example, I end up
- spending 80+ hours a week working with computers directly or indirectly
- (meetings at work, etc). It's hard to have a life that doesn't involve
- computers when you do that, but if you don't mind your life including
- computers it's a fine thing.
-
- >3) Is programming fun? Does it stay fun once you have to make money at
- >it? Maybe "fun" is the wrong word - I'm looking for a challenge,
- >something mentally engaging.
-
- It depends on the person. I've had programming jobs I liked, and ones I
- hated, but I'm still doing it. I find that the programming I do for
- myself is often the most fun, and I can make money with the programming
- I do for myself. Some people find sticking themselves with needles
- fun though -- I'm not able to say if you will enjoy it.
-
- >4) I don't have a bachelor's degree. How big a drawback would that be?
-
- Probably a fairly big one. I don't have a bachelors degree either, but
- I've had 7 years of computer-related work experience, and spend 10+ hours
- a day honing my skills. I have to turn away work on a regular basis.
- The last time I was asked about schooling they said "Just curious, I
- see you didn't mention education." "I'm self taught." "That's fine,
- it looks like your experience with XYZ is just what we need."
-
- I spent more than my fair share of time doing programming for under $10/hour
- while I ws developing my skills. After a couple years of 1 hour a day
- (every day) of study, you could probably find somone who is interested in
- giving you a chance, but it won't be a $30K to $50K/year job I'd guess.
- Not unless you have a lot of other relavent experience (like you've got a
- private pilots license and are hired to do avionics software).
-
- >4) What are some of the pitfalls of the biz?
-
- Pitfalls? Well, if you're good you can make a lot of money and you will have
- people lineing up to hire you. If you're average, you have a LOT of company.
- About 3 years ago when I put out a 3 line advert in a local paper (town of
- 100K) we had over 100 resumes within a week. I've known people with
- degrees who have spent 3+ months looking for a job.
-
- Computing is moving so quickly that unless you spend a fair amount of time
- working on keeping your skills up to date, you will fall behind. If you want
- to be a programmer 8-5 and not think about it any other time, you'll probably
- not be well rewarded.
-
- Enjoy,
- Sean
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- Sean Reifschneider, Inimitably Superfluous <jafo@tummy.com>
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